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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #684
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- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 20 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 684
-
- Today's Topics:
- IMMEDIATE LICENSING? Bad implementation. Good idea.
- lab power supplies
- RF problems in Ford Tarus???
- Transatlantic 50 MHz Es opening
- TRANSVERTERS
-
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-
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:06:14 GMT
- From: iglou!gregl.slip.iglou.com!ke4dpx@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: IMMEDIATE LICENSING? Bad implementation. Good idea.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CrLInz.845@world.std.com> dts@world.std.com (Daniel T Senie) writes:
-
- >Of course you would not mind the examination fee being raised to $25 or
- >$50 per exam so that VE teams could recoup the cost of the computers, right?
- >We who serve as VEs certainly would like to find workable ways to cut down
- >license delays, but keep in mind that we are volunteers. My team does
- >contribute our own pens, paper, etc., but don't necessarily have a laptop
- >computer handy. Many of the test sites have no phones. Sure we could use
- >cell phones in some places (where there is cell phone service), but that
- >can cost quite a bit, and data over cell phones is not the best...
-
- I have to agree, and this is the same argument I've used locally about having
- the VEs electronically submit applications. While some VE teams may be able to
- afford a computer and a modem, it certainly doesn't apply to all VE teams. And
- while having the VEs submit electronic forms to the VEC within 48 hours would
- get around the problem of not having access to a phone at the testing site, it
- still doesn't get around the monetary problem of buying the necessary
- equipment.
-
- On the other hand, I don't see any reason the VECs could not file
- electronically - for what it's worth.
-
- I also agree that instant licensing as proposed by the FCC was really dumb - a
- logistical nightmare of infinite proportion. I can visualize the numbers of
- people jumping on the air for the first time: "Hi, this is VE7GBT and I just
- passed the Technician test today." . . . "Funny, I don't remember any VE7GBT
- being issued a temporary callsign today."
-
-
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- Date: 20 Jun 1994 06:35:05 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!news.funet.fi!zippo.uwasa.fi!freeport.uwasa.fi!pales@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: lab power supplies
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- Do you need Lab power supplies?
- For sale now !!!
- For more information please reply.
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- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:43:17 GMT
- From: iglou!gregl.slip.iglou.com!ke4dpx@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: RF problems in Ford Tarus???
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CrKqMo.Fqq@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger) writes:
- >From: gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger)
- >Subject: Re: RF problems in Ford Tarus???
- >Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 03:49:34 GMT
-
- >It seems my news reader is some what erratic. I am considering buying a late
- >model ford Tarus I would like to run 100 watts on 2 meters and 300 on HF.
- >Are there any problems I should be aware of??
-
- I don't know specifically about 100 watts on 2 meters or 300 watts on HF, but
- I have used 50 watts on 2 meters with no problems in a '94 Taurus.
-
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- Date: 20 Jun 94 08:54:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!EU.net!sun4nl!ruuinf!ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl!faculty.chem.ruu.nl!besten@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Transatlantic 50 MHz Es opening
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Great News!!!
-
- Yesterday, 19th june 1994, we had a great (well great...) opening
- towards the States here in Europe and especially Northern Europe.
-
- The opening started at approx. 19.10 UTC in South Germany and at
- 19.55 Z it reached our (i.e. the centre of the Netherlands) lattitude.
-
- During the 25 min opening I worked 36 american stations from
- the 1,2,3,4,5,8 district and a few VE3's. The opening disappeared at 20.20 Z.
- At 21.45 a small opening reoccured and three stations were worked.
-
- Although a known phenomenon to active 50 MHz DX-ers, multi hop Es to the
- States at the lattitude of the Netherlands is relatively rare.
- Please if you work PA's, DL's or ON's only give your grid square.
- Especially during a pile-up we don't have the faintest idea where all kinds
- of exotic names origin from :-) Also the name of the cat of your neighbour
- is of less importance to us ;-)
-
- People in the southern part of Holland (*sigh*) were able to
- work CY9/WC9E and FP5EK (yes, the openings are that local that 15 km
- make a significant difference between booming 59 signals and hearing
- *nothing* at all. When you live in the central or northern part of
- the Netherlands the opening already disappeared before you get the skip :-(((
-
- Hope to work you on six too,
-
-
- Remco PA3FYM
-
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-
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 08:57:00 -0800
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!iat.holonet.net!megasys!tim.marek@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TRANSVERTERS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Do you have any more techincal details like NF or Converter gain?
- Also does that price incluce a case? I woild be curious to see how well
- it would perform on a crowded band. Thanks es 73s from DM09ep de NC7K..
- sk
-
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-
- Date: 20 Jun 1994 00:00:19 -0500
- From: illuminati.io.com!nobody@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2tmvvu$1ql@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <CrLInz.845@world.std.com>, <ke4dpx.8.00071ACE@gregl.slip.iglou.com>hnet.ed
- Subject : Re: IMMEDIATE LICENSING? Bad implementation. Good idea.
-
- >
- >On the other hand, I don't see any reason the VECs could not file
- >electronically - for what it's worth.
- >
-
- I don't see the delay from the VEC teams to the VEC.
- It's the FCC, *not* the VEC which slows things down.
-
- I took my test Feb 12, and all my paperwork was submitted to the
- FCC on the 26th of February. The FCC took 10 more weeks to get
- it issued. 11 weeks, one day. Long wait.
-
- So, again, I don't see where the VEC is to blame.
- In all, we'd save, oh, perhaps, 2-3 weeks of time?
- Maybe? And the fcc, still, would be taking 10 weeks to issue
- a license in general. NOT 10 weeks altogether, but 10 additional
- weeks from the time the VEC submits it.
-
- --
- ...........................................................................
- Matt Rupert - 2984 Pheasant Run Dr. Apt D - Jackson MI 49202 - hoagy@io.com
- Personal Security / UNIX Enthusiast / Amatuer Radio - KB8SGL
- "Earn cash in your spare time - blackmail your friends."
-
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-
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:06:16 GMT
- From: iglou!gregl.slip.iglou.com!ke4dpx@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2skp70$qbc@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, <1994Jun3.012445.4308@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CqwFtu.GGp@news.Hawaii.Edu>p
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <CqwFtu.GGp@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
-
- >I wonder what you folks would do if there were suddenly no repeaters? You are
- >so hopelesssly dependent upon someone else's radio (i.e., repeater) that you
- >would probably see your own radio as worthless (as someone has already
- >stated because he can't work any of the 440 closed repeaters).
-
- >How sad.
-
- >One of the first things I did when I got my first 2M radio (in 1976 - it
- >was a Clegg FM-27 - the very first synthesized 2M rig) was play on
- >146.76 - it was a simplex frequency back then. Simplex in the Valley
- >was very entertaining.
-
- I have to agree that simplex is a lot more fun than repeaters. Of course
- repeaters have their place in the grand scheme of things, but it isn't nearly
- as much fun as trying to work simplex and the conversation isn't nearly as
- likely to be jammed by some pinhead with nothing better to do. As near as I
- can tell so far, there are about three regular jammers in the area and two
- seem to be using HTs. At first they got frustrated because we can so easily
- get over the top of them so they started using random DTMF sequences to jam
- the conversation. Even so, they aren't very smart about it and can be easily
- gotten around. The bottom line is that I have yet to hear any of them trying
- to jam a simplex frequency. I doubt their fragile egos could survive trying to
- jam simplex with an HT though.
-
-
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-
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:36:54 GMT
- From: iglou!gregl.slip.iglou.com!ke4dpx@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <bntyhntrCrIuxA.86D@netcom.com>, <2tsecn$b7l@hp-col.col.hp.com>, <2tsu7j$d8i@oak.oakland.edu>uun
- Subject : Re: Simplex spacing on 2mtr
-
- In article <2tsu7j$d8i@oak.oakland.edu> prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes:
-
- >Regardless of the repeater channel spacing (here in Michigan it's 20KHz)
- >simplex spacing (or spaving, if you will) remains 15KHz.
-
- >Time Out for a rec.radio.amateur.misc "PET PEAVE"
-
- >Heard on the repeater:
-
- >"Where are you?"
- >"Uhhhh... 3rd and Walnut"
- >"Oh that's close! Wanna try simplex?"
-
- >I think to myself, "Whoa! That's cool! Nobody does that anymore!"
- >Then I hear...
-
- >"Sure... where do you want to go?"
- >"Uhhh... Five-Two?"
- >"O-kay! See you there! blah-blah... clear"
-
- >Not that going to .52 is an evil thing, but I guess I still think of it
- >as a "calling" channel... even if it's dead most of the time. I think
- >that if you have invested in a multi-VFO, extened rcv/(tx),
- >multi-hundred dollar radio... you COULD try something like .55 or .58 or
- >7.42
-
- Here in Kentucky it's 15KHz, and I know what you mean about people generally
- rag-chewing on 146.520. I don't consider it a 'pet peeve' but I do keep in
- mind that 146.520 is a calling frequency -- make your call, then move on to
- another frequency.
-
- Here's my pet peeve and it happens all too often, most notably at the Dayton
- HamVention this year. Overheard on a wide-area repeater in Dayton:
-
- "WB9VVV WB9XYZ"
- "Hey, where are you?"
- "I'm over by the concession stand next to the flea market area."
- "I'm over in the tented area trying to find you. You find any good deals yet?"
- ... blah blah blah for 15 minutes ...
- "Hey, you guys ever hear of simplex?!?! WB9ABC"
-
- Why in the world anyone wants to use a wide-area repeater (or any repeater for
- that matter) when they are no more than 30 yards from each other is beyond me.
-
-
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